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FormalPara Theresa Beyer:

Your research reflects on music in the context of global economies, colonialism, and patriarchy, and pursues a performative practice exploring these same issues. What does institutional critique mean for you?

FormalPara meLê yamomo:

In a healthy democracy, criticism is necessary. However, the consideration of how equal the relationship between the institution asking for critique and the people it is asked from is even more pertinent. I would then reformulate your question from ‘what is institutional critique?’ into ‘for whom is institutional critique?’ What matters most is for whom and by whom is the critique formulated.

As a researcher, artist, and activist, I’ve sat on both the institution and community sides. From the institutional perspective, I wonder how a (invitation for) critique is a defensive response by hegemonic institutions. I’m curious to what extent it is a social experiment in how far institutions can push their power envelope with the least wrist slaps from civil society. What might come across as a critique of an institution is often simply a statement of basic needs for equal political and economic rights from a disenfranchised community.

FormalPara TB:

In recent years, several important contemporary music festivals have addressed post-colonialism and diversity, with the awareness of these issues in curation definitely growing. What is your impression? How serious are these institutions about this?

FormalPara MY:

I don’t think European contemporary music, with its relationship to European classical aesthetics, is where paradigmatic shifts could happen. My decolonial research and practice reveal the limitations of the hermeneutic logic of contemporary European aesthetics. In considering the contemporary practice of Neue Musik for example, I see Europe polemicising itself within its hermetically sealed aesthetical and musical logic. Even when it purports artistic revolution, it lacks the epistemic humility to converse with non-European artists and aesthetics without relegating them as either foreign ‘migrants’ or exotic bodies and knowledge to be extracted. In this Eurocentric imagining, terms such as ‘migrant’ formulate colonially constituted roles, and expectations of how (non-white) bodies and the knowledge they carry exclude them from the institutional practice of artistic legitimisation and canonisation. In such an imagination, movements of bodies, ideas, and aesthetics are unequal: Europe is the centre where non-white bodies immigrate, whereas European aesthetics are imposed on the rest of the world by European ex-pats or philanthropic cultural institutions. Or when it does permit previously ‘othered’ bodies within its institutions, they are the ones who have successfully embodied the canons and aesthetics—as the trophy children of colonialism.

Postcolonial theorist Homi Bhabha calls this the ‘metonymy of presence’: An English colonial subject can only be Anglicised but will never be fully English. Through this lens, the empire will never recognise the colonised as a complete being. Rather the empire only sees the insufficiency of the ‘Other’ in its aspirational mimicry of the European ‘Self’. Suppose we apply Bhabha’s critique to European ‘contemporary music’ (a practice originating from and situated in German classical music tradition). In this case, contemporary music composed by non-Europeans and outside the central European aesthetics will only be a metonymy—an incomplete Germanified copy of the standardised German aesthetics.

Despite knowing that Europe’s interaction with non-European aesthetics brought about the ‘contemporary’ in European art, these aesthetic developments operate within the colonial and neo-liberal capitalist logic. Contemporary European aesthetics is colonial because it extracts and usurps non-European aesthetic systems to produce its appropriated ‘contemporaneity’ which, in turn, it sells as a universal cultural necessity to the rest of the world (that simultaneously spawns more self-referential value and surplus profit).

FormalPara TB:

Still, contemporary music programming is more diverse than 10 years ago. Isn’t this evidence that things are slowly changing, at least?

FormalPara MY:

I look at this from a Marxist perspective. Through such a lens, we can unravel the relationship and flows of power, economics, and aesthetics. Today neo-liberal capitalism has developed in a specific way: ‘Wokeness’, feminism, and queerness are usurped by capitalism. The latest mutation of capitalism generates market value and surplus profit from feminist, queer, or Black Lives Matter movements. Decolonialism is the latest edition to this. An entire ‘decolonial industry’ is now operating to generate social and cultural capital that circles back to cultural institutions to maintain and amplify their hegemonic status.

Classical concert halls opening up their stage for Black musicians or queer musicians are not necessarily interested in Black or queer artists. These curatorial acts often usurp the Black or queer body to perform a self-congratulatory act that reinstates their cultural relevance—while simultaneously policing. Usually, the marginalised bodies permitted in such houses or festivals are by those who have ‘culturally integrated’ into the canons and repertoires of these institutions.

What used to be excluded—other musics and sound cultures—may also now be welcomed in today’s music programming. But they are merely added to or included in an existing canon that remains unquestioned. Hence, contemporary music perpetuates an imperialist stance in its refusal to consider other systems as equal.

FormalPara TB:

With your practice, you aim to reveal the power structures behind music, asking who is allowed to define what music is. You define a broader understanding of sound. What are the challenges of such an approach when you enter institutions?

FormalPara MY:

I am perpetually confronted with many colonial mechanisms, such as the constant need to legitimise myself within Eurocentric institutions. White male composers freely speak for themselves and their art. Before I could even get to the point of creation, I had already used half of my energy and time to legitimise my presence, my work, and my being. I have to justify my brown queer body and my embodied archive of aesthetics and practices—made illegible and invisible through the white and heteronormative lens of Western history and institutions.

The institutionalisation of music, theatre, and art is Eurocentric and, thus, imperial projects. As a project, its intellectual labour invested in the standardisation of aesthetics that privileged the male bourgeois able, cis, straight white European. Throughout my childhood and early adulthood, despite studying and embodying an academic appreciation of European music, I always felt alienated by its repertoire. It would take several more decades, after a Masters, a PhD, and a postdoctoral project, that I would understand that my discomfort was less about my intellectual or artistic flaws in relation to the canon. Rather, this was an experience of epistemic violence. Not only am I demanded to think and feel inadequate to the ‘universalised’ subjectivity of this canonised repertoire, but as an artist I am punished for having my artistic failure equated to my inability to embody a hegemonic identity—the very identity which oppresses my queer and racialised being.

These conditions led me to a paradigm shift in my thinking and practice. I decided to bring my artistic and intellectual work outside the disciplines of music and theatre. I now purposefully situate my thinking and practice in performance and sound. Within these epistemological spaces, I strive to find new praxes of performativity, listening, social dramaturgies, and social compositions parallel to or outside the European logic of theatre and music.

My decolonial method working within the sound discourse is a liberatory act to remove myself from the hegemonic framework of music. I think about the multiplicities of sound practices without the need for polemics or defensiveness from music’s imperialism. So, to circle back to the topic of our conversation, I see ‘contemporary music’ as just one province among the multitude of sound cultures.

FormalPara TB:

Is this one of the reasons why you decided to go to a university instead of a conservatory when you came to Europe?

FormalPara MY:

Before coming to Europe, I already studied theatre and music in art school and completed a BA in Art Studies. I came to Europe to study for a university MA through a scholarship from the EU. After that degree, I wanted to further study music composition or opera directing in an art school. However, as a self-funded student from the Philippines without income, I could not afford it. But also, 15 years ago, the aesthetics of most European art schools and the type of students they attract and recruit were far from my artistic and biographical profile.

I was, however, offered a funded PhD position in Munich, which I accepted. My focus shifted towards academic research. This opened up a different way of looking at music, theatre, and the arts. But it also put me on another career rail track. Back then, I thought I had left behind my artistic practice. It took me several years before I circled back. And it would take a while to realise that the two paths I followed would merge and open up new roads. Retrospectively, I am grateful that I did not go to an art school. If I had done that, my studies would have imposed on me the canons that had to be replicated, and trained me to commit to its institutional hierarchies that I would have been expected to climb up and symbolically preserve.

FormalPara TB:

You mean the hierarchy of how to build an artistic career?

FormalPara MY:

In continental Europe, artistic careers are shaped by training institutions that prepare you for the production needs of concert halls, theatres, museums—the cultural institutions, or from a neo-liberal capitalist perspective: industries.

The contemporary development in art schools and art institutions is entangled with the economic shifts of the twenty-first century—where efficiency, low investment/high profit philosophy becomes the rule perpetuating a self-serving industry. Students are trained for skills that replicate the canon and that are useful to the standardised repertoire—which means critical thinking (towards the institutions) would not be encouraged.

Institutionalised degree-granting schools train students in the profession of acquiring privileges (degrees, awards, and institutional affiliations). To stay in this career, one must learn to collect as much privilege within the institution as possible. This obfuscates how these institutions and their practices are intertwined with centuries-old epistemologically violent constructions and modes of operation.

FormalPara TB:

What role do these constructions play in the political and economic situation of the present?

FormalPara MY:

When neo-liberalism prioritises efficiency, it means relying on the status quo. When institutions’ artistic and curatorial programming is dependent on ‘market-safe’ productions, it perpetuates the trap of colonialism, patriarchy, racism, and classism. This, in turn, informs the training provided in art schools that are also pressed to design efficient syllabi that is complementary to the needs of the market. If we consider that an art career is about collecting privileges, this means that diversity in student recruitment and artistic programming is less about the diversification of aesthetics and new perspectives, but rather a diversification of the market. Art education and art institutions maintain the imperial regime by reinforcing the dominant canons and aesthetics by recruiting ‘diverse’ students and performers as the industry’s new labourers and prospective market of the dominant repertoire.

FormalPara TB:

How does this relate to your own discursive position? Would you agree that constantly experiencing borders and exclusions lead to critique becoming an embodied practice?

FormalPara MY:

I am a post-migrant Filipino-Dutch person. I was born, raised, and educated until my Bachelor’s degree in the Philippines. I moved to Europe 14 years ago for graduate studies and have since lived and worked in the Netherlands and Germany. Having a hyphenated position, I constantly ask myself: Where are my privileges? And where are my marginalisations? We all have the coloniser and the colonised within us. How do both roles play out within me? In her famous essay from 1988, Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak asked: ‘Can the subaltern speak?’ The short of her answer is no. To hear the subaltern means that they already speak the language of the empire and have ceased to be subaltern. I critically reflect on my flawed positionality in how I speak about my decolonial work in the language of the empire.

FormalPara TB:

Would you go so far as to say that the patriarchal, colonial system has made you an ally?

FormalPara MY:

I will respond to this question with an analogy from the tech industry. Silicon Valley tech companies employ the very hackers that reveal the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of these multinational corporations’ systems. Paradoxically, the expertise of the hackers is utilised to make the very systems that they are breaking better. In my work, I have to be aware of this potential to be instrumentalised. When a festival or an institution invites me and my art or research, am I just then hired as a ‘hacker’? When I criticise the hegemonic system, am I then complicit in making the same system stronger? This makes me extremely careful in choosing whom to collaborate with.

FormalPara TB:

In Ballhaus Naunynstraße in Berlin, you host your own festival and concert series called Decolonial Frequencies, where you decide with whom you collaborate. The theatre is a safe space where nobody has to legitimise themselves, a space dedicated to the perspectives of queer people, artists of colour, and post-migrant experiences. How do you address the issue of framing when you are the curator?

FormalPara MY:

The agenda to engage sound cultures more democratically and in a decolonial way is the driving impetus for the Decolonial Frequencies Festival. The festival was intended to serve as a laboratory to practise and experiment with different decolonial strategies and methodologies through soundings and listening.

I strive to give my collaborating artists as much autonomy as possible. I want them to honestly criticise me as a curator. They should be able to tell me when they think I am trying to frame them. The goal is not to extract their knowledge for my gain. We reflected together on how their practice might be subjected to translation for white legibility or to be objectified as ethnographic subjects to be catalogued.

FormalPara TB:

What would happen if you did the same series in another venue?

FormalPara MY:

The issue of legitimisation, white gaze, and performative expectations consciously or subconsciously come into operation. Even at Ballhaus Naunynstraße, the relational dynamics shift as soon as a white male body comes in during rehearsals. But I’m curious to find other spaces and contexts where such practice and experiment could transpire.

FormalPara TB:

Do you think these spaces can have an impact on bigger institutions and initiate change? Where would you place Ballhaus Naunynstraße in the institutional matrix?

FormalPara MY:

Ballhaus Naunynstraße opens up a space and working condition that avoids the default modus operandi of white institutions. In the work that I do there, conventional expectations and categories of success are postponed: Feminist, queer and decolonial positions require space and context to fail—over and over again. Ballhaus Naunynstraße is one of the places where we strive to create such a safe space.

FormalPara TB:

I would like to come back to one point: You said that it is not your objective to make the artists participating in Decolonial Frequencies Festival legible for the white European audience. Why do you feel this is a risk?

FormalPara MY:

First, I’d like to distinguish between the white gaze and the European audience. The white gaze is not necessarily a white body perceiving. The white gaze can be internalised even by racialised minorities. Hollywood and classical music institutions embedded this white gaze in all of us through colonial education. Secondly, not all European audiences are white. One of the persistent problems of the European project is it imagines itself as homogeneously white. This negates the presence of brown and black Europeans, who are constantly made invisible by white supremacy.

Now to answer your question: Critical theory has allowed us to identify, name, and analyse the hegemonic systems of patriarchy, colonialism, and heteronormativity. However, being able to identify them doesn’t mean we are not within these systems. And it also doesn’t mean that we are free from acting within these hegemonic system’s scripts or social dramaturgies. Through our education, cultural upbringing, and socialisation, racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, and ableism are embedded within us. We are complicit to it even as queer people of colour. We are programmed to perform for the white gaze and ear. We are historically conditioned to address such expectations. Conservatories and art schools train bodies to serve the cultural industry structured for white spectatorship. The careers of many women, queer, or racialised artists are based and dependent on this. As an artist, I have to be self-critical in how these systems are manifested in my practice. As a curator, I need to be mindful that the artists I work with and their careers are intertwined with the dominant art and music institutions that enable precarity towards women, queer folks, and people of colour.

Entangled with cultural institutions are the academic institutions that might also frame and usurp the decolonial practices of the artists within the anthropological gaze of academia. The artists I collaborate with and their practices could easily be extracted by the self-serving decolonial industry of European academic institutions. Maybe we have to turn this around by framing Europe and asking how these institutions can lead us to change.

FormalPara TB:

Let’s turn to your own research. You have worked with archival institutions such as the Berlin Phonogramm-Archiv. Can you say something about your experience there?

FormalPara MY:

It took me 4 years to get access to the Berlin Phonogramm-Archiv, despite having a prestigious research grant from the Dutch government. Institutional archives are very strict gatekeepers who decide who can enter and who is allowed to formulate a discourse around the archival objects. Thus, archives as institutions are complicit to the canon-making and gatekeeping of musical imperialism. I have to point out however that this is already shifting. Whether this is because of the conversation that emerged from the research project and the festival, or because of the change of leadership—or both, it is good to see small changes happening in institutional policies.

FormalPara TB:

Many of your research projects deal with archives, their exclusions and their entanglement in colonial politics. Can you tell us more about them?

FormalPara MY:

In my project Sonic Entanglements (funded by the Dutch Research Council 2017–2022), I built relationships with colonial sound archives in Europe with communities in Southeast Asia. Last year (2022), we made significant steps in arranging the repatriation of colonial sound recordings from the twentieth century back to the source community. My new EU-funded project, DeCoSEAS (Decolonizing Southeast Asian Sound Archives), is a consortium between partners in the Netherlands, France, UK, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Laos that aims to reexamine the flows of knowledge productions and conversations on sonic heritage. In this project, three key points inform our decolonial intervention into sound and music archives: Access to the cultural materials is the first tiny step to decolonising the archives and the history of sound and music. The paradigmatic shift towards true decolonisation begins with the transfer of Agency in the access and use of these materials to the stakeholders of heritage and, therefore, towards the reshaping of Discussion on the topic from the community’s perspective. DeCoSEAS facilitates the discussion between different stakeholders in the Global South, supports Southeast Asian stakeholders’ agenda towards the claim and reframing of colonial archives, and opens the discussion between former colonial capitals in a transregional collaborative effort to decolonise.

FormalPara TB:

This change of perspectives and the active exposure and deconstruction of colonial power relations seems to be crucial to your performances as well as your research. Your PhD was about theatre and music in Southeast Asia in the mid-nineteenth to mid-twentieth centuries. What learnings from that research shape your work with archives today?

FormalPara MY:

During my doctoral research, I learned (in a painful way) how the archives work. I was looking for musicians in nineteenth-century colonial Southeast Asia, and I was consulting the colonial archives in Singapore, Hanoi, Manila, Jakarta, and Bangkok. With the opening of the Suez Canal in 1869, international communication, intercontinental travel, and the global economic system were transforming. Touring opera, theatre, and music companies were crossing oceans with unprecedented ease. As early as 1867, travelling Italian companies advertised entire opera seasons staged in local theatres in colonial Manila and Jakarta (back then called Batavia). In the archives, I could find the names of the European musicians but not necessarily the locals. While exploring the different sections of the archives in Singapore, I eventually found local musicians and theatre performers recorded reports within the police and fire departments.

FormalPara TB:

Why there?

FormalPara MY:

Before the electrification of cities, the music halls were highly flammable because they used candles for lighting. Musicians, ensembles, and performing troupes were required to submit the names of performers and programmes to the police and fire departments to secure performance permits. During the performance, police officers and firefighters were deployed to concert halls and theatres in case of social disorder or fire. I realised that then, as now, to understand where the colonised are, one must learn how to think like the colonisers. This double consciousness helps me understand the system today.

FormalPara TB:

Your example shows how the West sets a frame about what goes into an archive, resulting in the subaltern remaining invisible.

FormalPara MY:

This colonial social order reflected in the archives left legacies in the organisation of our contemporary world. The twentieth century was preoccupied with stricter drawings of territorial borders, migration bureaucracies, and passport and visa systems—all in the name of the modern nation-state project. Consequentially, artistic, cultural, and humanistic disciplines were built in support of the nation-state. Histories are written from the national perspective: German history, Dutch history, Filipino history, and Indonesian history.

Archives, universities, concert halls, and opera houses are legitimising institutions of the nation-state. Historians, scholars, and programmers build a historiography and cultural ideology around what were included in the archives and canonised by institutions. When music and art histories were standardised in the twentieth century, the legacies of empire and modern states circumscribed the narrative. In my research on the nineteenth century, I found archival traces of ‘Manila musicians’ travelling all over the Asia Pacific before their Filipino identity was established. (The Philippine Republic would only be recognised internationally in 1946.) This means they were not recorded as ‘Filipinos’, so they disappeared in the archival system.

Non-European migrant artists have disappeared from history. Filipino historians cannot write about them because they are not in the national archives of the Philippines. Concomitantly, Singaporean, Indonesian, Chinese, or Japanese historians, who might come across their records in other national archives, will not write about them because they don’t contribute to the national narrative.

FormalPara TB:

Is there such a thing as decolonial aesthetics?

FormalPara MY:

We must remind ourselves that colonialism is a project that has spanned at least four centuries. It was built with financial, political, and cultural capital sponsored by monarchs, churches, nations, and empires. These value systems are deeply embedded in cultural and social institutions that form intergenerational habitus. Our aesthetics—our habits of perceiving, thinking, and feeling—is the product of centuries of institutional investments. Our current (institutional) aesthetics is a product of centuries of failures and selectivity in the service of the status quo.

Decolonial positions never had institutional support. They never had the support of powerful institutions the way classical music always did. I invite us to think about practices that do not put the ‘colonial’ at the centre—whether as an imposed influence, agenda to collude with, or structure to be polemical to. How can we listen and hold the space for indigenous practices that are not legible to the cultural industry? Here, I am aware of the romanticising tendency of pre-colonial fantasies that urban decolonial thinkers, like me, tend to fabulate. To be mindful of practices outside of and purposefully concealed from the imperial matrix, think about how street or queer culture has hidden itself from oppressive regimes. And to consider emergent practices that are yet trying to articulate themselves outside the dominant canon, repertoire, and institutions.

FormalPara TB:

In that sense it seems impossible to clearly distinguish between politics and aesthetics.

FormalPara MY:

For me, there is no distinction between doing aesthetic work and doing political work. Aesthetics is the affective consolidation of politics, social relations, cultural symbols, and economics. This unity, whose parts are not easily identifiable by language or reason, forms our perception of what is beautiful. Those who make such distinctions hold systemic privileges to legitimise art that supports their ideology, and to delegitimise practices that are offensive or purposeless to the power structure.

Here lies the critical question: how can we open up new aesthetics? And by aesthetics, I don’t mean this as the normative means of consuming affective experiences that cultural institutions have standardised. I refer to aesthetics as an individual but also a collective understanding and ordering of the world through feelings. How can we account for the struggle of the fabric maker from Vietnam who contributes to the costumes onstage? Or the pained experiences of the children cobalt-miners that make possible the use of battery-powered stage equipment in a concert? The legacy of colonial aesthetics is typically embodied by the proscenium stage, which hides the labour from the frame that displays the pleasurable elements. Thus, institutions are complicit in these concealing and erasures.

Institutional aesthetics begins with knowledge about how to write a grant application. And it goes all the way to the material realisation of a fictitious world onstage—through human labour, copyright, rentals, and ticket sales. In this sense, institutional aesthetics conventionally support the bourgeoisie, patriarchy, heteronormativity, and white values. Thus, in this framework, my intellectual and artistic labour of imagining a world outside such normative systems is never just aesthetic but patently political.

FormalPara TB:

meLê yamomo, I ask you my last question with the risk of hiring you as a hacker: Where should institutions start in order to really open up politically and aesthetically? Or, using the analogy from the beginning of our interview: How do we break the frame?

FormalPara MY:

I am not paid for this interview, Theresa. The knowledge situated in my intellectual work, artistic practice, and political struggle wasn’t hired. I do not offer bite-size, easily digestible answers or solutions to century-old systemic problems. But opening up the conversation, like this one that we are having, is an important step towards better understanding.

Oppressive frames will always be replaced by another oppressive system, says a friend of mine. In replacing the framework, it is not the question of what. Decolonialisation, feminism, or queerness is not a question of what or who. Decolonisation is a method. It asks the question of how and why. The way that hegemonic systems and neo-liberal capitalism is entangled with academic, artistic, and cultural institutions, liberatory practices will not come from these institutions. Utopias are imagined outside of institutions, and sometimes they are co-opted within the institutions.

From the decolonial perspective, the ordering of systems, institutions, relations, and emotional experiences confronts us with questions of reimagining futures. How do we re-assemble sounds, spaces, people, and feelings into a horizon of a world that brings together beauty, joy, disgust, and pain from the violent past, towards our aspired utopias? How can we consolidate aesthetics outside and beyond the European institutional formulation—towards a new hermeneutic logic that is truly egalitarian and democratic?