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Forcings with ideals and simple forcing notions

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Using generic ultrapower techniques we prove the following statements:

  1. (1)

    for every sequence 〈μ n |n <ω〉 of 0–1σ-additive measures over the set of reals, there exists a set which is nonmeasurable in eachμ n ,

  2. (2)

    there is no nowhere primeσ-complete ℵ0-dense ideal,

  3. (3)

    ifI is a nowhere prime ideal over a setX then add (I) ≦d(I),

  4. (4)

    suppose thatμ is aσ-additive total nowhere prime probability measure over a setX, then add (μ) <d(μ), in particular, ifμ is a real valued measure on the continuum, then the measure algebra cannot have countable density,

  5. (5)

    there is noσ-complete idealI over a setX such that the forcing withI is isomorphic to the Cohen real forcing or to the random real forcing or to the Hechler real forcing or to the Sacks real forcing.

Some general conditions on forcing preventing it for being isomorphic to the forcing with an ideal are formulated.

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The second author would like to thank the US-Israel Binational Science Foundation for partial support.

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Gitik, M., Shelah, S. Forcings with ideals and simple forcing notions. Israel J. Math. 68, 129–160 (1989). https://doi.org/10.1007/BF02772658

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