Skip to main content

Reply to Critics: Poscher and Eleftheriadis

Abstract

In this piece I reply to comments on my book, The Mechanics of Claims and Permissible Killing in War, by Ralf Poscher and Pavlos Eleftheriadis. Poscher points out that my discussion of rights gave short shrift to the notion of dignity; my reply here gives me the welcome opportunity to correct that oversight. Eleftheriadis dissects my methodology, trying to shoehorn my theory into an existing category; my reply here gives me an opportunity to clarify why it is not just a variation on a familiar theme, but in fact, it represents a new approach to rights.

This is a preview of subscription content, access via your institution.

Data Availability

There is no relevant data to be made available or not.

Notes

  1. There were two of five who commented on my book in a symposium that was to be published, along with this response, in this journal. Unfortunately, communication problems seem to have prevented the other three—Kai Möller, Alon Harel, and Dimitrios Kyritsis—from publishing their comments on my book. I nonetheless remain grateful to all five of them for their thoughtful engagement.

  2. I do consider what I call “dignity based wrongs”. Walen 2019, 131–136. But I failed to articulate an account of dignity.

  3. Poscher 2022, 200.

  4. Walen 2019, 47.

  5. Poscher 2022, 197.

  6. Poscher 2022, 199.

  7. Parfit 2011, 9.

  8. I use “inalienable” in an especially broad way. Often, it is used to limit the rights that can be waived or traded away, but not the rights that can be forfeit. I use it to cover all possible ways of losing rights.

  9. I disagree with Etinson in one important way: I think dignity is properly viewed as the foundation of human rights, contra what he says on 379.

  10. I think something similar can be said about treating another as a slave.

  11. Poscher 2022, 194.

  12. Etinson 2020, 371.

  13. Poscher 2022, 200.

  14. Eleftheriadis 2022, 191.

  15. Eleftheriadis 2022, 190.

  16. Eleftheriadis 2022, 188.

  17. See Walen 2019, 58–59.

  18. Forfeiture and waiver of claims are also important, and both reflect, in different ways, the significance of autonomy.

  19. Walen 2019, 49.

  20. Eleftheriadis 2022, 190.

  21. Eleftheriadis 2022, 182.

  22. Eleftheriadis 2022, 182.

  23. Walen 2019, 47.

  24. Eleftheriadis 2022, 183.

  25. Eleftheriadis 2022, 184.

  26. I discuss that kind of two-step analysis in Walen 2019, 97–98. For a more detailed account of how I handle probabilities, see Walen 2020.

  27. Walen 2019, 77–79.

  28. Eleftheriadis 2022, 184.

  29. Eleftheriadis also seems to think that reductive individualism implies that leaders would be making corrupt, “private use” of political power. Eleftheriadis 2022, 184. Not at all. Insofar as they see themselves as acting in a role, they are to take into account only the claims on the state, in that role; they are to put their personal agent-claims aside. Walen 2019, 11, 37.

  30. Eleftheriadis 2022, 191.

  31. Eleftheriadis 2022, 191.

  32. Eleftheriadis 2022, 191.

  33. Walen 2019, 5.

  34. They may be morally violated in the sorts of extreme cases that give rise to threshold deontology. But the justification for such violations does not take place in the space of rights. It presupposes the breakdown of—and thus occurs outside of—the space of rights. See Walen 2019, 115–118.

References

  • Eleftheriadis P (2022) Rights in the Balance. Jus Cogens 4:181–192

    Article  Google Scholar 

  • Etinson A (2020) What’s so special about human dignity. Philos and Public Aff 48:353–381

    Article  Google Scholar 

  • Parfit D (2011) On what matters, vol 1. OUP, Oxford

    Book  Google Scholar 

  • Poscher P (2022) Human dignity in the Mechanics of Claims. Jus Cogens 4:193–201

    Article  Google Scholar 

  • Walen A (2019) The mechanics of claims and permissible killing in war. OUP, Oxford

    Book  Google Scholar 

  • Walen A (2020) Risks and weak aggregation: why different models of risk suit different types of cases. Ethics 131:62–86

    Article  Google Scholar 

Download references

Author information

Authors and Affiliations

Authors

Corresponding author

Correspondence to Alec Walen.

Ethics declarations

Competing Interests

The author declares no competing interests.

Additional information

Publisher's Note

Springer Nature remains neutral with regard to jurisdictional claims in published maps and institutional affiliations.

Rights and permissions

Springer Nature or its licensor (e.g. a society or other partner) holds exclusive rights to this article under a publishing agreement with the author(s) or other rightsholder(s); author self-archiving of the accepted manuscript version of this article is solely governed by the terms of such publishing agreement and applicable law.

Reprints and Permissions

About this article

Verify currency and authenticity via CrossMark

Cite this article

Walen, A. Reply to Critics: Poscher and Eleftheriadis. Jus Cogens 4, 329–337 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s42439-022-00068-3

Download citation

  • Accepted:

  • Published:

  • Issue Date:

  • DOI: https://doi.org/10.1007/s42439-022-00068-3

Keywords

  • Rights
  • Dignity
  • Autonomy
  • Just war theory
  • Poscher
  • Eleftheriadis